Janice 'Bunny' Beth Fulk



A Tribute to the Life

Of the late

Janice (Bunny) Beth Fulk

Established February 1, 2014

Note: Some of the information on this website link was posted prior to February 15, 2014 and the rest was posted after February 15, 2014. All information is subject to change and availability without notice.

This website page plus other links provide the following information as a tribute and memorial to the life of Bunny Fulk from September 21, 1949 to January 19, 2014. It was originally conceived for the many friends and acquaintances who could not attend her memorial service however it will available into the future to challenge those who have not considered the options presented in the Bible regarding existence after death and as an inspiration for all to pursue the Biblical protocols for life on earth.:

1. Opening
2. Donations
3. Obituary
4. Comments from Students, Parents/Friends, and Teachers
5. Bunny's Answers To A Questionnaire
6. Pre-Service Tribute To Bunny's Life (Video)
7. Tribute & Memorial Service Schedule
8. Memorial Service Transcript
9. Transcript of Backup Message





The following transcript was prepared as a backup message to be read in the event of weather or other circumstances that may have prevented the main speaker at the last minute from making it to the memorial service. This backup message was prepared by Chuck, Bunny's husband, after conferring with her just before going into Hospice. He uses his own writing style and examples to illustrate the principles and factors that Bunny wanted conveyed to those she knew and loved. This transcript, while never used as part of the memorial service, has been added to the website link for further consideration by the readers/listeners. It is highly recommended that the main message be listened to with the link provided in the website.

Bunny and I met in college in Upland, Indiana at Taylor University where we both graduated with degrees in teaching. We began dating in the fall of 1970 as juniors. I guess it took her our freshman and sophomore years for the "big city girl" to get accustomed to, as she later told me, a "Missouri talking hick". At the end of our sophomore year, at the beckoning of a group of classmates, I decided to run for junior class President but with no help from Bunny. In fact, she was the campaign manager for the person I was running against. She later told me that she told the other guy that he would be a "shoe in" because there was no way that "hip" college kids would vote for a Missouri talking hick to be a class president; however the "hip" college students proved her wrong. Maybe that changed her perspective about Missouri hicks but something changed after the election and during the summer of 1970 because she went on a full blitz the beginning of our junior year to snag me (of which, I was slow to catch on). Well, who could resist Bunny with her personality and her "mosquito tactics" (as I later called it after being married to her). Anyone who worked with Bunny knew she did not stop "pestering like a mosquito" until she got what she wanted. Our love journey began and I was convinced after we rode together on a 1,000 mile bicycle trip around the coast of Florida that we would make it as a married couple. We ended up getting married and never looked back.
In the video that was shown (prior to the main service) commemorating different phases of Bunny's life there were slides of Bunny and I on the 1,000 mile bicycle trip in Florida during the winter of 1970 between college semesters with a group called Wandering Wheels (I worked with this group throughout college). It was not hard to talk her into going on that trip as it was called a co-ed trip only because I was one of a few guys to be part of a male support team for the 30 some college girls riding in that trip. Bunny wanted to make sure that I "stayed restricted from supporting" the other college gals when they were asking for neck and shoulder massages after a full day of riding. The slides of the trip most definitely imply that Bunny liked the "loving part" of the trip better than the riding part of the trip although she completed it without any hitches.
Trust me, as the oldest brother of 4 boys with no sisters and the son of a dad who was the oldest of 4 brothers with no sisters, I learned things about the female sector of humanity on that one month trip than was never taught in the classroom. I did not even imagine what there was to learn about womanhood until I observed these gals dealing with the physical, mental, and female stresses of riding a bike all day in all kinds of weather. After returning back to Taylor to start the 2nd semester the guys in my dorm congregated in my room when I first arrived and immediately inquired how the trip went after being with all of those girls for a month (a couple of them were not too happy that the trip only allowed a few guys to go). My answer was somewhat predictive but I told them that if any guy spent a month with the woman he was engaged to marry while riding a bike for 1,000 miles and was still going with her at the end of the trip there is no doubt he had the right woman and would probably be married for life. And so it was from June 5, 1971 to January 19, 2014.
The education department at Taylor University has always been recognized for producing outstanding teachers. Over the last several months of Bunny's life, I heard many people comment about how outstanding of a teacher and how loving of a person Bunny was. While Taylor probably had an important part to her development as a teacher, there is not much doubt in my mind that the 'secret' to Bunny's success as a great teacher in the public classroom was because she extended the same loving, hardworking, and teaching techniques she utilized in becoming a great mother at home. What people observed about her in the classroom was simply a carryover of how she loved CJ and Mellissa and how she taught her believed responsibility for everyone to respect those with authority and extend good manners with respect toward others. It was an easy decision in our marriage to decide for her to stay home during the early years of CJ and Melissa growing up in spite of the financial implications of doing so. I would say that the time she spent raising CJ & Melissa in their early years was one of the greatest pleasures she had in life as she talked about their childhood memories throughout her whole life. Bunny would always choose to be with her kids rather than do something for herself.
You have probably heard today that those who taught with Bunny knew of her passion for proper grammar. Most everyone probably got a chuckle out of the stories regarding her passion for grammar but what you didn't hear from those same people (nor saw me chuckling) is what it was like to live with Bunny's passion for grammar 24/7. One of the big adjustments she had by coming from a big city life to a farm life was the difference between what she called "Boston" grammar and "Missouri" grammar. I will brag a little bit that I was pretty good with grammar in the classroom but never really broke the slang phrases common to Missourians. Some of those slang phrases generally included the wrong tense of verbs. On paper I knew they were not correct but just habitually used those phrases I grew up with. Most of us don't mind a little correction from time to time but when you live with a grammar enthusiast sometimes it can be a little annoying (when the pestering mosquito becomes a pestering bumble bee). Fortunately for me, one thing a grammar enthusiast will always agree with is that the purpose of language is to communicate. So one time during an evening meal after being passionately corrected I asked, "OK Mrs. Grammar, let me ask you a question. If I yelled from the kitchen to you in the bedroom, 'Came' out of the bedroom NOW, the house is on fire; would you come or just stay there and start in with a grammar lesson?" After a 15 second pause, she finally smiled and admitted she would leave the bedroom. So I replied, "Then I communicated with Missouri grammar which is the role of language." My point was finally made---that was until the next time I needed correcting.

A professor of philosophy in a major university was a professing atheist. At some point in his curriculum each semester he would begin the class with the statement, "Let me explain the problem science has with religion". It should be noted that by this time in the semester all of the students knew that he was an atheist and he knew what students were professing Christians.
The atheist professor of philosophy continued following a short pause after his opening statement by asking one of his students to stand, "You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
"Yes sir", the Christian student said.
"So you believe in God I assume?" asked the professor.
"Absolutely", the Christian student rapidly fired back.
"Then let me ask you, 'Is God good'?"
"You bet" replied the student and reasserted, "God is good without a doubt".
"Is God all-powerful? In other words can God do anything and everything?" asked the professor.
"Yes sir, God can."
The professor then asked the Christian student, "Does God commit evil?"
The student quickly replies, "The Bible says that God never has and never will commit evil."
The professor grins because he knows he now has the Christian student setup for his next point.
"Aha! Then God cannot really do everything then can He?"
The student begins to squirm on his feet because he does not have a ready answer.
So the professor, while pacing in front of the room, reloads with another question for the student, "Do you believe in the existence of Jesus Christ?"
The student's voice betrays him with some leeriness to answer, "Yes, professor, I do."
The old man stops pacing and looks the student squarely in the eyes, "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"
"No sir. I've never seen Him."
"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus talk?"
"No, sir, I have not."
"Have you ever touched your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or for that matter, God?"
The student now aware of the direction of the professor's questioning says, "No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
"Yet despite no scientific evidence you still believe in him?
"Yes" is the only reply the student responds with.
So the professor continues with what he hopes is the slam dunk, "According to the rules of empirical, testable, and demonstrable scientific protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
"Nothing," the student replies. "I only believe because I have my faith."
"Yes, faith", the professor says as this is just what he wanted the young Christian to admit. "And this makes my point why science has a problem with an invisible God or a Jesus Christ you have never scientifically verified. There is no evidence or no proof, only faith that either exist."
The Christian student realizing that he has no constructive reply sits down. There is complete silence across the room as the professor looks at every Christian student hoping his glaring facial expression will convince them of his opening statement. After about 60 seconds of deathly quiet, another student finally stands up to ask, "Professor, can I ask you some questions about God and science?"
The professor was very intrigued by this student because he was not a professing Christian, "Yes, please go ahead young man".
"Am I correct that in your atheistic belief that you believe and have taught that man evolved from some type of monkey or ape?"
The professor readily said, "If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process young man, yes, of course I do. It is the only scientific explanation for how everything came into existence."
The student then asks, "If it is the only scientific explanation for how everything came into existence then can you document any observations with your own eyes of the evolutionary process, sir?"
By now the professor begins to shake his head, smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going.
But before he can answer the student fires some other questions, "In fact, has anyone ever documented the evolutionary process with any of the other sensory faculties? Since no one or even you have ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not just teaching your opinion, sir? Technically by your own definition, you have forsaken the rules of empirical, testable, and demonstrable scientific protocol required by good science and passionately preaches an undocumented theory expecting all of your students to accept the Evolutionary Theory by faith?"
Now it is the professor who is squeamish on his feet and careful not to answer.
The student continues to further demonstrate his point as he looks around at everyone in the room. "Is there anyone in this class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class quickly breaks out into laughter.
"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, talked to the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain?" Most students are shaking their heads now as their laughter has turned to just smiling.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, testable, and demonstrable scientific protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain then how can we trust that your lectures are the truth and how do you justify ascribing to a theory that is scientifically unprovable"?
Now the room is silent as the student pauses to let the professor think about the question. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old professor answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith"

It has been said that the second student who stood up was Albert Einstein. This classroom discussion is generally told to illustrate how the arguments by atheists do not "hold water" scientifically any more than those who claim there is a God or believe in the Creation Theory. The story may allow the Christian community to keep face with science that claims or insinuates there is no God, however, in the issue of whether there is a God or there is not a God the story illustrates a much more important point that all people should realize in discussing the subject of absolute truth. Regardless of who wins a debate on either side of an argument neither side can absolutely prove their point. The arguments by the professor and the latter student were a simple example of debater's technique. While many would have claimed that the professor won the argument with the first student, most would claim that Einstein won the debate with the professor. Regardless of who won the debate neither proved there was a God or there was not a God.
It is important to realize that building a case from the best debater never absolutely proves or disproves anything in life including what happens after a person passes on after life. One of the important issues that will be put forward today is regardless of what you believe about the existence after death; there is not one person here today who absolutely knows or can ever absolutely prove what will take place the split second after you die. People can debate the science vs. faith issue till they are blue in the face but there is NO empirical, testable, and demonstrable scientific proof as to what occurs after death. This message will also point out some of the possibilities of what could happen after death that pose serious risks to any person who believes in the wrong option. It was one of Bunny's hopes for this memorial service today that every person she loved and knew would listen to what she believed for eliminating any risk of being wrong about a perfect God.
As a side note, many people wrongly assume that if they win the debate then what they believe is the truth. Ancient Greece considered themselves an intelligent group of people so holding debates as a form of public entertainment were treated much like sports here in America. The best debaters could argue either side of an argument and win without proving they were absolutely right or even believing their argument was the truth. This transcript is not presented with the hope to supersede all other debates but with the hope of challenging each person to verify the evidence for the claims of their beliefs on matters of such importance.
Bunny's agreement to have this memorial service was to allow those who attended to reflect on just what happens after a person dies or exits life on earth as we know it. She hoped that each person would understand the implications of a perfect God with perfect standards toward imperfect people and imperfection in general. There are those today who insinuate that claiming there is only one way to heaven should be labeled as a hate crime. It is there misfortune that they have no clue about the claims of God, no concept of perfection, and especially no clue as to the seriousness of the ramifications if the claims of the Bible are true (of which they obviously deny with faith because of no evidence or absolute proof). This memorial service is not to theologically or intellectually debate the possible scenarios after death but rather assist everyone in evaluating what Bunny believed about existence after death. She wanted everyone to consider this subject, not from what you can prove or not prove, but from how to eliminate the risks if what you believe ends up not being the truth. Since no human can absolutely prove a fact absolute then what a person believes actually becomes a "bet" on what they believe. The insinuation of a confident belief in God as a bet may insult some people but anything other than proof as absolute truth makes anything you believe a bet. The issue is not whether it is a guess and/or bet but mastering the details for making the bet.
There are good bets and bad bets. A good bet is typically based on the combination of the high odds of winning the bet and the minimal consequences of losing the bet. A person may believe the odds are very high to win a million dollar bet but should seriously weigh the consequences of such a bet if the consequence of losing the bet cost a hundred thousand dollars. Therefore, we will look at the claims of the Bible for being right about existence after death and the consequences of being wrong if the Bible is right. The consequences claimed in the Bible for any human not adjusting to the perfection of God as per God's perfect protocol establishes the eternal risk at such a high level that common sense alone should cause every person to at least seriously evaluate the Bible's claims.

The results of what a person believes about what happens after death are generally only considered from a positive perspective. The consequences of being wrong about the uncertainty of what happens after death should be a very important part of the betting process. A good bet that leads to a successful bet is not a frivolous guessing game. It is backed with serious calculations regarding the facts/evidence. There is no doubt that many people have "lucked" into the right bet regarding the truth after death but the bet as to the absolute truth does not need to be a "shot in the dark". It can be safely said that decisions betting on the wrong truth about existence after death are mostly deliberate rather than guessing. A person who bets that nothing will happen after death has no more proof of being right than a person who bets that existence does take place after death. The difference for either position is the evidence that can be produced to verify the claims and/or the trustworthiness of the one making the claims. The problem is that most people who contend there is no existence after death generally have no scientific or empirical data/evidence as claimed by the professor in the beginning story to support such a claim and very likely believe in no existence after death because they want to believe it for a variety of reasons (including convenience with what they already believe or want to believe). One of the underlying issues regarding claims as to what happens after death is the trustworthiness of those making the claims. In the case of those who believe there is no existence after death, it basically comes down to trusting the claims of a person/people who have no information/proof at all about existence after death (in other words, it is made up) vs. a God who claims to be perfect and who has the capability because of perfection to control eternity. Another factor to keep in mind is the level of consistency for being right and being wrong (perfection can never be wrong).
You may have already noticed that I am using the word, "existence", in the place of "life" after death because not all claims of what can happen after death would be considered "life" as we know it and most definitely not better than we know it. There are no circumstances or situations ever experienced in earthly life by any human that will ever equate or be as bad as to what the Bible describes as the consequences of being separated from the perfection of God. What is worse than what we can imagine is that the consequences will never let up or never end as part of forever and ever. There will be no "enduring or persisting" to a break or to an end, as we know it, of these potentially terrible consequences because forever and ever will have no end.
As another side note, there is a difference between evidence and proof. It would be overwhelming to most people if they would sit down and list everything in life that occurs based on evidence without absolute proof. We see the evidence of gravity everyday but try finding a scientist who can prove what gravity is, where it originates from, how long it will last i.e. guarantees that it will never cease or diminish. Humans make very important decisions everyday (without even considering the possibility that gravity may cease for that day) based on the evidence of gravity without ever proving anything about gravity. I can tell you with all of the planning that went into this service by all of the participants that there were no contingency plans included just in case gravity stopped during this service. I bet the school has never had a "no gravity" drill for all of the kids and staff. Just imagine everything in and around your home, your vehicles, etc. if gravity would cease for 24 hours. People assume and trust that gravity is an absolute truth because of the consistent and dependable evidence of gravity but it has never been proven to be an absolute truth. No one can guarantee when gravity had its beginning or that gravity will never stop because no one possess the ability to know if a change will or will not happen. This is because of incomplete knowledge but we still depend on gravity without absolute proof. Something else that is used by millions and millions of adult Americans every day is a speedometer in a vehicle. I do not believe it is an exaggeration to claim that most of those millions of people who depend on the accuracy of a speedometer have any clue as to how the old mechanical or the new electronic speedometers function. Furthermore, I would even say that most have never checked the accuracy of their speedometers but depend on them to be accurate. How do we know if the speedometer is accurate or not? One way is when the law enforcement authorities never pull us over or continually pulls us over when the speedometer shows we are driving the speed limit. This is evidence that the speedometer is accurate without having a clue as to absolutely proving how a speedometer functions accurately.
The strong belief from the anti-God crowd that the evidence a person depends on every day without absolute proof is the sign of intellectual weakness and a disarray of empirical, testable, and demonstrable scientific proof to back it up is not only, in my opinion, intellectual dishonesty and intellectual subjectivity in high gear, but is generally agenda driven in high gear. The assumption of the existence and perfection of God being an absolute truth without absolute proof is no more ridiculous than scientists conducting research that assumes gravity as an absolute truth as part of the research without absolute proof. I have read/scanned hundreds of research documents over the years and never once was it mentioned that the level of gravity was monitored during the research to make sure it was not a variable in the research results. I would challenge any person to count the number of times God/His Word in the Bible has been proven wrong compared the number of times science, in general, has been wrong throughout human history. It is my opinion that if any person cannot even come close to establishing the facts for this challenge then that same person is highly unqualified to insinuate to others the authenticity of the claims of God being true or false. This goes both ways. In the scope of intellectual and theological discussions, it is just as ridiculous and intellectually dishonest for someone to deny the existence of God without any indisputable documentation as it is for a person who believes in God to claim the existence of God without any indisputable documentation. This may explain why the majority of people who consider the message regarding the Bible from others (outside of when they are under great stress, in a disaster, or facing other circumstances that seem to be out of control) believe the message appears to be a make-believe story taken serious. The old saying that, "A picture is worth a thousand words" can be used for the Biblical Christian message, "The 'living documentation' of a person living in a position of the perfection of God is worth a million words".
Regardless of what decision one holds or will make in the future about existence after death, it will be made on the basis of never knowing which decision is the absolute truth until the instant after death. Bunny took the potential consequences after death from a perfect God very serious. One of the end results of her love is that no one would ever experience these potentially terrible consequences. Her love for people was one of the more observable characteristics mentioned by most people who wrote/sent her notes, letters, cards, etc. (many posted on the website link for her memorial service) in her final days. Everyone should know that her love for people was more than how to get along with each other better. Bunny considered the expression of her love minuscule to what she considered the greatest model of love in human history. It was this model of love that she used for the expression of her love to all of those she knew. She hoped and prayed that all the ones she loved would avoid some of the possible options after death that Biblical Christianity has elaborated on for centuries.

The issue of not being absolutely sure about what happens after death brings up the subject of just what is truth. The debate over what absolute truth is and where it comes from has been an ongoing debate between people throughout human history. There have been great thinkers, some who were geniuses, who have tackled this question from various perspectives but guess what? No one has ever succeeded proving what absolute truth is or where it came/comes from. Every philosophical thinker or religious leader who became famous for their conclusions about absolute truth could not cross the bridge into absolutely proving the truth. Because of the inability to cross that bridge, all of them veered off and made up their philosophy of truth (generally an attempt to fill in the gaps or shortcomings of a previous philosophical or theological concept) without ever knowing or proving just what absolute truth was. Even though they never were able to prove what they concluded was the absolute truth, cultures have been greatly influenced by these different philosophical and theological conclusions. Today's time restraint does not allow us to explore this fascinating subject but I will say that the major philosophical conclusions throughout human history have been revisited in a predictable pattern or cycle (which is also in step with the rise and fall of civilizations). In fact, the belief/thinking processes in today's America have been strongly influenced by one or several of these philosophical systems of thinking. Anyone here today who thinks they are an independent thinker of these philosophical systems might want to do a double take because our culture today is not only influenced by some of these thinking systems but have been/are being taught in the public schools, promoted in the media, and even adopted to some degree by churches/hard core professing believers. Yes, even Christianity has been spiritually culturalized which is a term I use to describe the cultural impact on Christian doctrines and thinking. Simply put, spirituality is honed or influenced by the culture rather than being unchangeable regardless of the culture. It is not whether it has or hasn't but to what degree.
Take for example the issue of drinking. A survey that represented the spiritual thinking 50 to 75 years ago found that the large majority of professing Christians thought drinking alcoholic beverages of any kind could not be part of a spiritual life and therefore should be avoided. Today, over 85% of professing Christians think there is nothing wrong with drinking alcoholic beverages while pursuing a spiritual life. What changed? There were no new books added to the Bible. What is interesting to me about this mental attitude change is that theological differences have not seemed to decrease in that same time period yet close to 90% of believers can now agree on one "theological issue"---drinking. It would probably be hard to get a 10% agreement within Christianity as a whole on many theological differences. You decide if this agreement on drinking practices is a change due to a commonality from Biblical interpretation or commonality from culture thinking???? Ironically, right or wrong, many of the deliberate or passive attempts to culturalize spirituality (always in the name of good) are initiated by those who lack the ability to accurately analysis Biblical interpretations.
Drinking is used as an example here but is not to imply drinking should be a taboo. Bunny's teacher friends know that she would never pass up a good Margarita. She only drank on occasions but did have a sign hanging on the refrigerator for years that said, "With enough Margaritas you can do anything". Drinking illustrates the many swings in the beliefs of not only Christians but with societies as a whole influenced by the current culture. Civilizations have come and gone with dramatic swings in what is accepted and not accepted. For example: across the averages, kids today are probably exposed to more public sexual innuendos before leaving the 8th grade than our great grandparents were during a life time. Such changes of what is truth and what is not truth in civilizations, nations, societies, families, individuals, etc. is generally related to progressivism in subjectivity (try this subject for something to think about: progressivism is not possible without subjectivity). The odds of correctly assuming what is the correct absolute truth greatly diminishes with subjectivity and can account for the variability of what people assume to be the truth about existence after death.
Here is a simple truth that should be considered regarding the truth about existence after death. All absolute truth is assumed to be the absolute truth without proof that it is absolute truth. Probably one of the most changeable and non-absolute practices in human history is what we call science. Consider this an outlandish statement? Think of it. If you study science's history it is amazing how many times it has been wrong and/or had to change its claims as to the truth yet today is considered the pillar for deciding what is and is not truth (one of those double takes one should think about). Scientists are even divided on what truth is on many subjects such as global warming (use to be global cooling). Science originally claimed that the earth was flat. Galileo was ostracized because he claimed that the sun rather than the earth was the center of the universe or planetary system. Darwin, in his thesis of evolution, had no clue to the DNA processes in human and animal life. The discovery of DNA has undermined many of his conclusions yet those same conclusions are still held today by hard core evolutionists/scientists. Even some of Einstein's scientific theories have been vulnerable to modern day discoveries. As recently as the eruption of Mount St. Helen, geological research has completely undermined the theories that the earth could be/needs to be over 10,000 years old yet many scientific conclusions/hypothesis are contingent on the fact that the earth/universe is up to billions and billions of years old. The age of the earth has escalated from millions to billions of years old and will probably move to trillions of years old in the near future now that Americans are getting use to the word "trillions" in regard to the national debt.
Now before the anti-God crowd belittles the "young age theory" because of just one research project, they should remember when just one piece of what was believed to be a jaw bone was uncovered during a digging expedition and then quickly proclaimed and herald as the "missing link" between apes and mankind. It was lying by itself only several feet from other animal bones. If one piece of what was believed to be a jaw bone lying next to animal bones can so quickly receive scientific creditability, surely a multi-year research project should be reviewed with objectivity.
An overview of the history for scientific discoveries does not establish bragging rights for science determining what truth is or is not. The truth about science is that it can only discover or rearrange the truth within present day capabilities but does not create the truth. Scientific discoveries have and always will be subject to change which is antithetical to absolute truth. Remember the earlier challenge of comparing the number of times claims have been wrong in relationship to the trustworthiness of making claims that cannot be proven. It should be very obvious that when the capability of discovering the truth is limited then truth can never be absolute i.e. always subject to change and correction. One characteristic for truth to be absolute is that it must be aware of all truth that can ever impact truth. So for this discussion, absolute truth must be the perfect truth. Truth cannot be perfect unless it is the end result of all truth to be known. Truth that is always susceptible to change can never be the final (absolute) truth or the perfect truth.
Bunny knew that she would never be able to prove what happens after death before she passed away so this presentation is not to absolutely prove that what she believed was the absolute truth. The good news is that the consequences specified in the Bible for assuming the wrong truth about existence after death can be avoided through one decision with no added cost or requirements. A bet that cost nothing or requires nothing and can hedge against the possibility that God's claims end up being the absolute truth is as James Coburn stated in the WWII movie, Midway, when discussing the strategy for the attack in the Pacific, "It is the smart bet". Why? Because nothing is lost and the potential devastating consequences are not only avoided forever but, as Bunny believed, would secure her a place in the presence of a perfect God forever.

There are many discussions regarding the correct interpretation of what is written in the Bible. It may seem simple if you just read the English versions without any comparative analysis, but the original books/letters of the Bible were not written in English. There is a huge problem in conveying many of the exact details and technicalities presented in the Bible from the original languages into the English language which has led to many interpretation problems (specifically many differing and conflicting interpretations) to the point that has created many unnecessary problems/controversies. These manmade controversies have not only posed authenticity issues regarding the Bible but have been a major contributor for the hundreds and even thousands of theological interpretations that have come and gone since the Bible has been concluded. Unfortunately, these manmade interpretations have been created, influenced, and accelerated by agendas not included in the Bible. Two of the best examples that demonstrate this problem and have caused tremendous misunderstanding that leads to many conflicting interpretations (especially in the political arena) are the Sermon on the Mount and The Lord's Prayer.
Despite all of the controversial interpretations claimed by various peoples, groups, religious denominations, theological establishments, etc., one fact that is almost indisputable and very clear from both the original languages and the English translations: God claims to be perfect and His standards for determining absolute truth are perfect. This indisputable claim does not prove there is a perfect God but if you are going to discuss, debate, argue, etc. God, the Bible, Christianity, etc. it has to be done within the claim that God is perfect. Otherwise you end up creating another god that is manmade and is not applicable to God and His claims in the Bible as to who He actually is. Many people throughout history have dismissed God, the Bible, Biblical Christianity, etc. because they could never "prove" God or comprehend the concept of perfection God claims to possess.
As another side note, there tends to be many interpretations in theological circles that cannot be verified with consistent evidence. There are at least 3 critical techniques that must be in place to more accurately interpret the Bible and to more consistently verify personal claims for the interpretations relied upon. The first is to master the original languages to accurately determine a much more exact meaning of the grammar (a characteristic of the Biblical original languages over the English languages) of which has a dramatic impact on accurate interpretations. The second is to accurately determine how the word was used within its historical setting. If the founding fathers were told by someone that they really "dig" the Declaration of Independence they probably wouldn't have a clue as to what it implied and would probably incorrectly interpret the statement as someone who was out digging in the ground with a shovel to find a copy. The third is to make a comparative analysis of how words were commonly used within the Bible to further determine the way the Biblical authors used the same words throughout the Bible. In other words, by tracing a word such as "dig" it would dramatically reduce the inaccuracy of how the authors intended the word to mean. The context of using a word such as "dig" in modern America would likely demonstrate that it had nothing to do with physical digging dirt. "I really dig baseball" has nothing to do with a shovel. My personal opinion is that any discussion that is not based on the mastery of these 3 starting principles turn any claims of interpretation into philosophical guessing, theological subjectivity, or self-agenda justification regardless of the number of people agreeing.
Today's presentation will hopefully make it clear that the issue in making a decision regarding the authenticity of a God of perfection is not centered on the proof but the possibility if God's claims are authentic. Therefore, to take time today to try and prove the authenticity of God would be a waste of time because regardless of the supporting evidence it would never completely or absolutely, without any question, prove that God exist, is who He says He is (as declared in the Bible, "I Am that I Am"), or that He is perfect (the only declared model of perfection ever to exist in human history). Bunny never absolutely proved that there was a God because it is impossible to do so. The important issue to Bunny within the context of not being able to absolutely prove the claims of God was to consider the possibilities if they were true. It is the possibilities that not only motivated her to eliminate any negative repercussions after death but also to access the positive benefits while living on earth and when arriving in heaven.
A pivotal issue in considering the possibility that the claims of God are true is the relationship of imperfect humans to a perfect God. It is not about whether a person is a bad, acceptable, or a good/the best imperfect person but how does a perfect God deal with imperfection. In other words, everything in life must be evaluated and synthesized to the claim that God is perfect. God has given standards in the Bible as to what it takes to be perfect so combined with some objective intellectual rationale the "whys" of these standards exist can be better understood.
People who miss the boat, as it were, regarding the claims of God (including philosophers and religious thinkers throughout human history) generally try to absolutely prove the existence of God and His perfection (absolute truth) rather than correctly define the perfection of God and the correct ramifications of the relationship between perfection and imperfection. The incorrect definition and the assumption of the incorrect ramifications totally misconstrue God, the Bible, and the whole message in the Bible regarding the interaction between God and humanity. It has been my contention if people would first integrate the correct concept of perfection before deciding what to believe about Biblical interpretations that many conflicting interpretations in human history would disappear.
The best any imperfect human can do in light of never proving what the absolute truth consist of, such as what actually transpires after death, is to assume what the absolute truth is, based on indisputable evidence. The assumption of what absolute truth is can more simplistically be said that everyone "bets" on what the absolute truth is. So in context with the title of this presentation, Bunny's Perfect Bet, the best bet will always be a bet on perfection because a bet on anything that is not based on perfection is just educated/uneducated guessing and mystical hoping regardless of how high the intelligent level maybe. How can a person bet with greater odds of being right than betting on perfection if it is true? A bet on imperfection is a bet on every detail ever considered whereas betting on perfection is reduced to one bet: perfect or not perfect. If perfection is true then every other detail must be correct or perfect. The possibilities of what details are the truths or not the truths under imperfection are endless. The flip side of the previous question is just how bad (the results) is a wrong bet if the claim of perfection by God is true? If the claims of perfection are not true then nothing is lost because without a perfect God there are no consequences as specified in the Bible. BUT, if the claims of God are absolutely true then, as the common day saying goes, "There will be hell to pay".

The idea of an imperfect person who believes that they can spend eternity with a God who claims to be perfect is impossible on 2 accounts. It should be noted here that the word, "claim" is used to recognize the inability of proving absolute truth but does not imply the lack of indisputable evidence for the assumption of absolute truth. First, if the claims of God being perfect are correct there is no possibility of imperfection becoming perfection. Why? Because perfection has to be eternal to be perfect and since no imperfection can exist with perfection no imperfection can be locked into "forever and ever" with perfection. Time and space in the universe is a break in the "forever and ever" which allowed God to delay immediately separating a person at the first imperfection. In other words, time and space are a temporary break or reprieve from locking anything and everything into eternity. Without time and space, the first time an imperfection took place it would have instantaneously been locked into eternity with no chance to ever change the results. The end result without time and space is that imperfection has to be instantaneously separated from perfection forever and ever. Secondly, despite a debate of whether there is a God, not a God, a perfect God, or not a perfect God, etc., the concept of perfection has eternal implications for both perfection and imperfection but never the two together. It can simply be said that it is mathematically impossible to turn imperfection into perfection. When just 1 is subtracted forever from one million and can never be recovered, it can never be a million ever. It will always be short of a million and never a perfect million. The fact that human beings fail many, many times more than once is generally recognized by normal thinking people. Such shortfalls or failures mandate separation from a perfect God forever and ever. Once a shortfall (imperfection) enters God's perfection arena (existence after death) it is forever a shortfall. Death is actually the exit from time and space to forever and ever under the concept of perfection as claimed in the Bible. Life on earth is a temporary time from forever and ever for a person to evaluate God's proposal for a solution that can adjust the relationship between perfection and imperfection. The implication of God's solution is that it is a perfect solution and thereby acceptable to a perfect God. The protocol for such a solution MUST be God's perfect protocol in order to meet the requirements of His perfection. Anything and everything that deviates from His protocol as to how to activate His solution (regardless of how good it may seem) will never be accepted by His perfection i.e. will have to be separated from His perfection when locked into eternity. A person may do 999,999 good things in life out of a million opportunities but being one short of a million will go down as "imperfect". Remember, no exceptions to perfection no matter how close imperfection comes.
A solution for imperfect humans to regain a status acceptable to the perfection of God (or securing a position with God that is compatible to His perfection) must be solved outside human capabilities i.e. outside imperfection. For those who are not that familiar with some of the claims of the Bible, God has made a promise to the human race that He has a solution to solve the imperfection problem of humanity so that a person who follows the proper protocol can secure a position with perfection that will eliminate the need for separation forever and ever. As you might guess, it is and has to be a perfect solution to be a forever and ever solution. The Bible calls that solution "good news" for the human race. God not only tells about this solution in the Bible but He specifies the protocol for this solution to become effective. It is so simple and cost nothing to avoid the eternal ramifications of being separated from the perfection of God that it makes it "the perfect bet".
It is likely that most people here today have been to a number of these types of services only to become mentally deaf to the ramifications of existence after death because of hearing the same story over and over. Let me make the point now in case some of you drift into mental soberness. The truth about which option will happen after death is and will be a bet on your part. The word "assume" is just another dressed upped word for faith and putting faith into modern day street language you are betting on what will happen after death. It makes no difference how confident you are that the truth you assume to be absolute truth you are still betting that it is potentially absolute. So as a person thinks about what option to bet on or assumes to be the absolute truth there is a degree of how serious to take the bet.
It has been said that funerals and memorial services are to pay tribute to the life of the deceased person and a final opportunity for that person to publically disclose what they considered really important to life once a whole life can be evaluated in the context that the end of life is soon to come. Even a young person faced with the immanency of death can evaluate life much more objectively when faced with making the correct bet. It is hoped that when such an evaluation is passed on at a service such as today that those attending will seriously take some time out of the hustle and bustle of life to think about the impact of what is possible after death. Many seem to believe in our day and time that there is a "disconnect" between life on earth vs. life before/after life on earth but nothing could be further from the truth. There is probably much truth to a saying, "Tell me what you believe about life before being born and tell me what you believe about life after you die and you will have told me the basis for how and why you live the way you do". So the continuing message of this backup transcript is to convey some very important issues Bunny would want to be publically disclosed to those who attend as to what she believed impacts not only existence after life on earth but life on earth.
As we address this subject as to whether one's claim to what happens after death is correct or not, a person should be interested in considering all options to greatly reducing the odds of being wrong. It was a very sobering idea for Bunny who expressed so much love that some of the people she loved and knew would deliberately ignore, chose to take a chance on betting against the ramifications of a perfect God, or, probably the biggest concern, compromise the perfect protocol God has set up thereby never activating it. A perfect protocol has to be followed perfectly. Ironically, because of the simplicity of the protocol the latter concern deals with anything that people want to add to God's perfect protocol thereby never activating God's perfect solution. Bunny would have advised everyone setting here to make sure they have followed the perfect protocol in order to receive the perfect solution that is acceptable by a perfect God. Nothing can ever be added or detracted from a perfect protocol otherwise it was not perfect in the first place. So adding or detracting from the perfect protocol nullifies the perfect solution and therefore cannot be accepted by a perfect God. It is each person's responsibility to evaluate if they have or have not followed the perfect protocol because that is a decision each person has to make for themselves. No one, including God, can make it for you.
A phrase I use in presentations for agriculture in reference to growing systems is, "A successful manager has the ability to accurately predict the outcome of the future before it happens because he/she has mastered the details impacting such a decisions". This phrase is just as applicable for our subject today, "A successful betting person has the ability to accurately predict the outcome of existence after death before it happens because he/she has mastered the evidences impacting such a decision." How? By gathering the evidence that makes a bet almost indisputable and gathering evidence that indisputably eliminates the wrong bets. The uniqueness of betting on something perfect is that it will always be supported by consistent and logical evidence. Why? Perfection can never be inconsistent and illogical because it can never be contradictory. The problem at the human level is the influence of subjectivity which distorts consistency. It should be pointed out that God's perfect protocol to activate His perfect solution does not require a certain level of evidence so fortunately, it can be followed at any age with any level of evidence. But for the benefit of those who are critical thinkers (those who do not believe everything that comes along unless it meets certain criteria) the assimilation of indisputable evidence is not only possible in regards to existence after death but such assimilation is encouraged in the Bible. It is important for everyone considering the facts of the subjects in this transcript to understand that the lack of interest in collecting the evidence or just placing the wrong bet without indisputable evidence will not be an excuse in front of a perfect God. Choices mandate responsibility. It can be said, "What you die with is locked into forever and ever". The old saying, "You can't take it with you" is not correct in the true sense of the concept. Your decisions and beliefs that you die with will be locked into forever and ever. God would completely dismantle His perfection if he would compromise His perfect protocol and perfect solution by adding or detracting from it. This is a fundamental reason, as will be addressed coming up, that perfection always "trumps" love when a loving act would potentially dismantle perfection. Perfect love is a love that compliments perfection i.e. is a love for perfection. Imperfect love potentially undermines perfection.

When truth cannot be proven absolute then truth can only be assumed to be absolute based on assumptions that cannot be proven including what happens after life or after death. Therefore, whether holding to the viewpoints of Christianity, science, atheism, any other religion, etc. all assumptions are assumed with faith. Faith is at the core of every belief system in an imperfect world of imperfect people whether from haphazard mystic presumptions or to establishing undisputable empirical evidence. Every person has a belief standard of right/wrong and good/evil regardless of how low or bad it may seem to others. These inherent belief standards (generally influenced by many factors) are the standard barriers for thinking and making decisions. In order for the perfect protocol of God to activate His perfect solution for imperfect people, a decision is required for acceptance. Therefore, a "no" (zero)" decision is a default "no (rejection)" decision. God never coerces a person to follow His protocol so the protocol mandates a deliberate decision of acceptance.
What I am going to say is the result of meeting and talking with thousands of people over the years through my occupation. In particular, I have always been fascinated as to how people make decisions. My analysis thus far is that people basically believe what they want to believe or do not believe what they do not want to believe because they believe they are right. This statement may not communicate much to some but the statement implies that such beliefs are generally made impervious to evidence, research, so called proof, etc. This is obviously a subject for another time due to the time constraints of this service but the implications of the observations just stated is that empirical evidence, including scientific research, is typically used by a person to prove what one wants to believe or prove what one does not want to believe. Then, what becomes very interesting is how people justify away the conflicts or contradictions to what they want to believe or do not want to believe This seems to be true regardless of what a person believes or does not believe. It is this last statement that would support that each person is eventually responsible for what they believe regardless of how they came to believe it or how they came not to believe it.
Here is a simple example of how people tend to dismiss the inability to absolutely prove the truth as to what they believe. One person may believe that evolution is a valid theory, but as pointed out in the beginning story it cannot be proven but those who believe the Evolution Theory to be right, establish their whole theory based on the assumption, not the proof, that it is right. Conversely, a professing Christian may believe that creation by God is a valid theory, but as also pointed out in the beginning story it cannot be proven but those who believe the Creation Theory to be right, establish their whole theory based on the assumption, not the absolute proof, that it is right. When both sides of these theories believe they are absolutely right and fail to realize that they are based on assumptions then most debates will end up in heated arguments with neither side proving anything except their extreme subjectivity.
It is important to note that regardless of how systematic or consistent a theory may be put together that neither the Evolution Theory nor Creation Theory is better than the proof of the assumption each is built on. Both theories can document many of the components of the theories but the theories are potentially built on a "scientific house of cards" and have no validity at all if the founding assumptions are not provable and/or backed up with indisputable evidence. Therefore, there are two important things I have found to be important when trying to determine the odds an unprovable assumption is correct. First, always, I mean always, learn how to identify the assumption(s) a belief system is built on. Secondly, never let the facts of the belief system, regardless of how persuasive, systematic, consistent, etc., substitute for ignoring or deleting the assumption.
So if my analysis, in a general sense of the concept, is correct then people will believe what they believe or do not believe by choice (even though it may be a default or indirect choice) at the point of death. Those beliefs, as the result of direct/indirect decisions, will be locked into eternity instantaneously at death which implies those beliefs can never be changed under the concepts of perfection. Those who question how God can send a person to an eternal hell to suffer have misconstrued the facts. A person, given the responsibility when not coerced by God, decides that they will take their chances by never accepting God's perfect protocol, perfect solution, and perfect acceptance by a perfect God. The separation from God to a hell of forever torment is the result of each person's own decision. What a shame when a person can so simply and effortlessly hedge such a bet to avoid such a separation. The simplicity of the perfect protocol will leave no creditability for any excuse based on lack of means to fulfill the protocol or difficulty in understanding the protocol process.

There is no doubt that there are many belief systems represented here today at Bunny's memorial service. There is no doubt from conversations with a number of Bunny's friends that there are many theological differences represented here today just over Christianity alone. Bunny did not want this to be a service as an emotional stepping stool to try to convince those with different belief systems than hers to switch to her belief system. However, with the fact that none of us can prove what really happens after death she wanted to leave her testament of what she believed for those to objectively consider what she believed. In a nutshell, for this service, she wanted everyone to make sure they have followed the perfect protocol to activate the perfect solution that is accepted by a perfect God. A person may believe in the perfect solution and even believe God is perfect but if the perfect protocol is not followed perfectly then the perfection chain has been broken (imperfection is the break from perfection). This is not only for the issue of existence after death but how God's perfect protocol (which is also very simple within the parameters of spiritual freedom) for reaching spiritual maturity to activate His perfect solution for living life on earth that is accepted by a perfect God. Another fascination about people are those who profess to be Christians and recognize the perfect protocol to activate God's perfect solution for existence after death but automatically contend that God can accept what they do (reference to "good works" in the Bible) even if it does not follow His perfect protocol for Biblical spirituality.
The phrase "will and testament" were much more familiar terms in times pasts for a service such as today for a deceased person. It was a common custom that a person would prepare a will (to specify how his/her assets would be handled) and would prepare a testament to be read to those left behind. The will is still commonly done today but what is almost extinct today is that a person would leave a "testament" to be read to pass on to the next generation in regards to what they believed was important to life. As part of the Christian tradition in America, a testament generally would beseech people to stop and seriously focus for a short time to evaluate the options they were depending (assuming) on for what happens after death and what was important in life in regard to everyday living and eternal implications. A funeral or memorial service was a time and place for those who attended to hear the "last and final important perspectives" the deceased person had to say about life.
Bunny did not write what would be a customary "testament to life" so we sat down before she entered Hospice, knowing that her passing may be eminent, to discuss what she would want conveyed to those who would attend her memorial service. This backup message is a testament from her perspective as to what she really wanted all of those who she loved and/or knew to know as her "last testament". In the context of what a person believes is unprovable as the absolute truth, she wanted everyone here today to listen to her testament and consider what she believed to briefly re-evaluate the evidence and risks of their beliefs for existence after death.
The phrase "hedging a bet" is a common term for those who invest in the financial markets. In street language they are betting that the markets (such as commodities or stocks) will improve to a certain position. If they predict or guess the market correctly they make money. If they do not predict or guess the market correctly then they lose money. At the same time a person can pay to take an opposite position in the market so that whichever way the market moves they will never lose (this opposite position cost money and is similar to an insurance policy). The point here in regards to guessing or predicting what happens after life is that a position can be taken to offset the possibility of being wrong about God and the perfection of God.

What I have found interesting over the years with every theological difference or even with a no belief in God is that every person/group who holds those views claims to be "absolutely" right. This is another fascinating part of how people make decisions in that most everyone goes through life assuming there are absolutely right in what they believe and everyone else who does not agree is wrong. There are obviously some subjects that may have different variations of truth at the human level but for a God who claims to be perfect, perfection does not and cannot leave any wiggle room. If God claims to be perfect and the Bible is the Word of God then it stands that the Bible has to be perfect or at least in its original form. A person spending just a little time thinking out the claims of the Bible would ask, "If what God says is perfect then why are there hundreds, even thousands, of variations on the same subjects of what He said?" A perfect God cannot say (or claim) imperfect truths. One of the characteristics of perfection is that it is absolute and cannot change. This may be hard for those who think subjectively (in varying degrees includes every human being) but absolute perfection implies "one" right or it is not perfect. What maybe even more controversial in today's culture (those that deny some forms of absolute truth) is that there is only one protocol for adjusting to the perfection of God as an unbeliever and only one protocol for adjusting to the perfection of God as a believer. An unbeliever who is imperfect before becoming a believer is still imperfect after becoming a believer. If a person, as the Bible claims, can do nothing to bridge the gap between a perfect God and an imperfect record, what line of thinking believes that an imperfect believer can do anything to please the perfection of God? (This question has been the bases for many of those hundreds, even thousands, of conflicting theological interpretations mentioned earlier). The magnitude of this subject is much greater than what can be discussed today but just to state that without the correct protocol to adjust to the perfection of God as a believer, anything and everything done, is separated from God no matter how good and/or how much good is done. The protocol for adjusting to the perfection of God as a believer is mandatory for reaching maximum spiritual maturity. What is somewhat unique to Biblical Christianity is that when something is done on earth in a position of perfection it is immediately "locked into" eternity even before a believer gets there and regardless of what is done later (the entrance of anything into the perfection realm of God can never be retracted). So here is a question for those who debate the finality of becoming a believer: "If a person has one good act locked into eternity (as per the perfect protocol for believers) that can never be changed, how that person can ever be separated from God's perfect realm (heaven)?" As you may guess, this is a huge subject for another time.
There is only one protocol that allows a person to adjust to the perfection of God to avoid eternal separation and there is just one protocol to adjust to the perfection of God to avoid having everything, as the Bible says, "burned like wood, hay, and stubble" in the pretense of being spiritual. The Bible infers that what is going to be burned (referencing hay wood and stubble) is the "good' (not the bad) a person does typically considered spiritual works. Why? Nothing can have merit with a perfect God unless it can be accepted or approved by God's perfection. Whatever you believe will achieve spirituality will be burned unless it follows the protocol for adjusting to the perfection of God.
Here is another subject with great magnitude to think about: "What happens to the message (or parts thereof) of a pastor, preacher, minister, believer, evangelist, seminary professor, etc. that is incorrect (not the perfect Word of God---the odds are there are many due to the many differences and conflicting theologies) and professed to be the only correct interpretation when following the perfect protocol of God for advancing to spirituality? This should keep the old thinking box operating for a while in relating this to the concept of perfection.
Anyone sitting here today should keep in mind that regardless of all of the differing beliefs, opinions, theologies, etc. about what happens after death, only one can potentially be absolutely or perfectly right. Each person is responsible to determine which one they will assume or bet on to be right. The time for changing a bet as to which "one" is the absolute truth is terminated the instant death occurs. There will be no excuses allowed by a perfect God once the status of a decision for betting on the wrong belief is locked (never can be changed) into forever and ever. Harry Truman coined the phrase, "The buck stops here". So it will be before a perfect God as the responsibility stops with you when it comes to betting on just what the one and perfect way is.
A simple deduction for those who want to add or detract to the perfect protocol for the perfect solution acceptable by a perfect God is as follows, "The streets of hell will be crowded with people who duplicated many things advocated in the Bible but failed to realize that nothing is acceptable to the perfection of God unless it follows His perfect protocol to avoid separation from His perfection". A spin off deduction is that many people walking the streets of heaven who duplicated many things advocated in the Bible were stripped of those good deeds/works because nothing is acceptable to the perfection of God unless it follows His perfect protocol.
Keep in mind that Bunny's testament here today is not to determine who is right or wrong regarding what is the truth about what happens after death but simply to get you to at least hedge your bet if you end up facing a perfect God. As mentioned earlier, Bunny did not prove if what she believed about existence after death was absolute or not. She and you will never absolutely know if you are right or wrong until you die. It is probably fairly safe to say that Bunny will not be coming back to prove to us just what the truth after death really is but she left nothing to chance by eliminating all risks of losing her bet to the perfect justice of a perfect God.
There is a story of 2 friends that debated the issue of existence after death. They made a pack with each other that when the first would die they would meet at a specific place and specific time 3 days after death. The friend who was still alive after the first one died kept the commitment but the one who died never showed. Every person here today will have to make a decision as to what happens after death without confirmation or proof. This bet can be a bet on perfection (based on the claims of perfection of God from the Bible) or can be a bet based on guessing or hoping. In respect to the consequences mentioned in the Bible and the logical deductions of being separated from perfection, they should play a major part for consideration before rejecting, ignoring, adding/detracting from, etc. the perfect protocol, the perfect solution, and the perfect acceptance by a perfect God.
The simple effortlessness for making the "perfect bet" to potentially eliminate the risk of those consequences is a "no brainer" or a "nothing to lose proposition" for a person who is objectively and seriously contemplating this subject. In street language we bet on what we believe as the absolute truth (why people believe they are right and everyone else is not right).

WHY DOES A LOVING GOD........?????:
The title of the last section was that perfection trumps all else. Sometimes the wrong question is asked to find the truth. The question of, "Why does a loving God...?" should be "Why does a perfect God...?" The latter question leaves nothing to question because there is no question to something that is perfect. This implies that regardless of God's love, sympathy, compassion, etc. toward every person and all people He cannot yield to love, sympathy, compassion, etc. to those who violate His perfection or for any reason if it undermines or compromises His perfection with imperfection. This is why God's plan for His perfect solution had to be masterfully crafted so that His expression of love could be expressed without contradicting any aspect of His perfection. This masterfully crafted plan, as a result of merging His love with His perfection, reduced the protocol for the perfect solution to "bare simplicity" that would have to be perfectly implemented.
This side note is injected here because rejecting principles for achieving so called good has been a major component for the loss of freedom by civilizations. A nation that compromises its principles of freedom in order to promote good (not bad) will eventually lose most, if not, all its freedom. Nations (as well as people) typically lose freedom in times of prosperity rather than when times are tough. Need any more be said about America?
It is because of perfection that there will be no excuses that can trump perfection. The Bible promises that any person who wants to know how to adjust to the perfection of God will be informed. Obviously, that has not been a big issue in America where freedom has allowed the gospel or good news for adjusting to the perfection of God to be freely disseminated. It is almost certain that with all of the hundreds, even thousands, of conflicting theological convictions that some part of the perfect protocol, the perfect solution, and the perfection of God has not been accurately interpreted and/or communicated but God will make sure that each person gets the truth to consider. Bunny's memorial service today could very well be your fulfillment of God's promise to hear or to be motivated to get the correct information that will activate your perfect solution to solve the problem of being accepted by a perfect God.
I am going to offer some comments on the issue of perfection in relationship to love since several references were made on this subject regarding Bunny's passing and probably a common question that has been asked by others, "Why is it that a person who was so loved and simultaneously loving be snatched from life at an age when she was having maximum beneficial impact on so many people's lives?" And along that same line, "Why did such a loving person of children be snatched from her grandkids that were at such a young age?" I am going to answer this from 3 broad perspectives that should include all categories of people.
The first perspective is for those who do not believe in God or as I call them, the anti-God crowd. From my research and observations over the last number of years of my life, those who deny the existence of God do so deliberately or simply by default (it is not considered a serious enough subject to interfere with one's lifestyle). The anti-God crowd in my opinion should not even be asking that question of those who believe in God because everything in life without God is subject to fate or chance of some unknown or uncontrollable force somewhere which is just as unprovable (and maybe more so when searching for undisputable evidence) as God is unprovable. The anti-God crowd has no clue as to how the perfection of God synthesizes with the love of God. Why would such a group even comment on someone or something they do not even believe exists, especially, when they cannot even back up what they believe?
Anyone that lines up with those that reject the authenticity of God/God's perfection and who subscribes to the Evolution Theory should be at least gratified to overly ecstatic that the purpose and end game of the survival of the fittest could have been played out (eliminating the weak who cannot survive) in Bunny's case. The death of those who are weak before the normal age of death is the survival of the fittest in action. Adolph Hitler bought into the survival of the fittest concept championed by Charles Darwin who in part is given credit for the beginning of the Evolution Theory with The Origin of Species. Hitler and Darwin believed (Darwin's belief is generally swept under the rug to avoid inconsistencies with modern modifications of the Evolution Theory and social justice) that the western white race (European) was and would eventually be the superior race because all other races were inferior (isn't it interesting that they just happened to be part of the "lucky" race). Any student of history knows that Hitler tried to speed this process up by killing all the inferior races with the German military machine and eventually to eliminate anyone who was not German or part of his conceived super race.
As a side note on Hitler, he was a staunch environmentalist. There is discovered evidence that indicates Hitler's motivation, in part, that started WWII was so he could enact/extend his environmental policies to Poland for the "elect" German people.
The second perspective is for those who claim they believe in God as one of the possible "universe" powers or "controlling" powers that humans cannot control, explain, or even comprehend. My encounters with those who think along these lines tend to believe that choosing (or admitting) to a "higher" power entitles one to any benefits associated with such a God or god. The concept of perfection rules out any notions that follow this type of thinking. The concept of switching a perfect God to a universe power is generally a direct/indirect attempt to eliminate the parameters of perfection (eliminate the separation aspect) but escalates the uncertainty (guessing and hoping) of existence after death to the hands of chance and fate. A person may have a problem with believing that God is perfect but evaluate Him according to His claims---not what you or others want to claim for Him. If there is a God as the Bible claims then He is perfect. If God is not perfect or is denied the claim of perfection then He is not God and/or He is a god manufactured by imperfect people i.e. which intellectually avoids the claim of God being perfect. God must be evaluated by His claims not by what we ascribe to Him, want Him to be, or just what can be proved about Him.
A person should believe or not believe in God based on what He claims not what others claim or deny for Him. This is why it is critical to evaluate what the anti-God crowd and those with differing theologies ascribe to God within the context of His claim of perfection. Imperfect humans cannot comprehend all aspects of perfection but the human capacity of the mind can understand enough about the concept of perfection to relate it to many areas of intellectual and theological consistent and logical thought. I contend, as previously referenced, that the deliberate ignoring or rejecting the implications of His perfection in philosophical and theological thinking is why there are hundreds, probably thousands of differences of what should have only one meaning or interpretation.
Please listen to this. One consequence of these many conflicting interpretations has given Christianity a terrible record for creating the perception of a religion saddled with numerous restrictions, multiple taboos, mandates on what to do or not to do, etc. You can take what I say now strictly as my opinion but people ministering, pastoring, preaching, teaching, etc. use the Bible to motivate/enforce control over reader/listeners as per their interpretation (part of those many conflicting theological interpretations who believe only their interpretation is correct and everyone else is wrong). It is a pitiful shame on this type of Christianity because after the death of Christ believers were granted maximum freedom to live the spiritual life for reaching spiritual maturity.
The biggest shame, continuing with my opinion, is that the demise of interpretations centered on the perfection of God (protocol, solution, and acceptance) has evolved into a Christian mentality that is hardly distinguishable from a non-Christian mentality (resulting into spiritual culturalization). Unfortunately, the primary difference between Biblical Christianity and non-Christianity/non Biblical Christianity today resides on differences between what to do and not to do, how I feel and how I do not feel, etc. rather than the difference between maximizing spiritual freedom and spiritual energy while operating in a position of perfection resulting in a life of maximum duplication of and contentment from the thinking of Christ. A life void of maximized spiritual freedom and spiritual energy, for unbeliever and/or believer, is limited to unfulfilled/short-fulfilled self-survival and self-satisfaction passions and activities (including the duplication of Christ's thinking outside of a position of perfection).
The genius of the concept (even though it is a simple and common sense concept in itself) of American freedom (in its original concept) is that it parallels the system of freedom established in the Bible for living the Christian life. The Constitution institutes limited (at least that was the idea not remembered in politics today) restriction on citizens and those restriction are to be adopted only if equally adopted (without compromising the diversity of others). Those who want to simplify government would only have to reinstitute the principle of the last statement in every aspect of government which would clean up government as it is now and protect it from government overreach again in the future. Maximum freedom is only possible within limited restrictions and limited taboos. The Hippies in the 1960s were proof that unrestricted freedom without some system of authority fails just like it has every time in history. History is a living example that too much restriction and too little restriction of freedom will destroy a freedom-built civilization every time. The same trend can be seen with Christianity throughout history. The joke to me are those unbelievers and believers in Christianity who believe that the perfection of God is to be restrictive (control through legalism) or under restrictive (abusing grace). The advance to Biblical spirituality should be a model of maximum freedom to everyone else in the world rather than a system of control/coercion or an excuse for freedom to live according to self-established standards. The comparison of the system of freedom originally established by the founding fathers of America and the Biblical spiritual way of life is a subject for another time but demonstrates (contrary to the position held by many unbelievers and believers) that the perfection of God (along with its "exclusivity as to which way is right") maximizes individual freedom.
It is inevitable that many people who say they believe in God believe if they do enough good that God will grant them a place in heaven. In other words, they will try to bribe God in ignoring His code of being perfect so they can compromise His perfect standards to their deviations from perfection. This may sound great for the persons who also want to self-determine how much good it takes to get to heaven or how much deviation it takes to miss heaven. The problem with that line of thinking is that neither is compatible with the impossibility of imperfection being good enough to be perfect. I recently was talking to a person who believed that if you believe in God you would automatically get a free pass to heaven. I told him that I believe that Arrowhead Stadium is near the intersection of I-70 and I-435 in Kansas City but that does not make me a Kansas City Chiefs player, does not make me a member of the starting offensive or defensive team, or does not even get me inside to watch as a fan. You can believe that the electricity in the electrical wire will turn a light on but it doesn't turn the switch on. This is the group that will typically ask, "How can a loving God allow a loving person like Bunny to suffer so much extreme pain?" The straight forward answer is because He is perfect and perfection always trumps so only God may know.
I should mention that Bunny never questioned, to me, God's perfection or His love through the seemingly unbearable pain she suffered at the end. Personally, I believe no one will probably be able to correctly answer that, at least in this life and she probably did not have an answer either. The point for her or any believer is to "spiritually woman up" or "spiritually man up", as it were, by continuing to duplicate the thinking of God from a position of perfection (more on this last sentence in a minute).
As another side note, one that may be controversial to some, needs theological consideration, offered without infringing on the providential power of God, and given as my opinion: God does not prance around giving everyone cancer any more than giving everyone dysentery to those in unsanitary conditions. The causes of cancer have been medically and scientifically determined. These causes support why so many more people are getting cancer than 50 years ago rather than God's plan to increase the occurrence of cancer. Unfortunately, when considering data behind the cause(s) of cancer, the claim that God gives people cancer may just be using God as a patsy for irresponsible choices. It is assumed that a dentist would not accept the statement that God gives cavities to a person who has never brushed their teeth for 64 years. Jesus Christ controls history but we still have to brush our teeth.
The third perspective is for those who have accepted the Biblical protocol for securing a place in heaven after death. This presentation has referenced the perfection of God many times. It is not only the difference between Biblical Christianity and so called religion but is the difference between advancing or not advancing to maturity in the spiritual life. Bunny spent time almost every day studying different concepts and principles from the Bible plus many other functions suggested in the Bible. She did understand however that no matter what she did that without following the protocol required meeting God's perfect standards as a believer they would have no eternal value for her. Some people believe that "doing" such as studying the Bible, praying, teaching in church, fasting, listening to Bible teaching, volunteering, giving money, etc. will appease God. Unfortunately for those who believe that, they only understand "part of the story" due to misunderstanding what is acceptable and unacceptable by God's perfection.
One statement that is probably considered an ideal Biblical objective for Christians is to duplicate the thinking of Christ (based on the assumption that all physical activity is based on a person's thinking). At face value, that may sound like a model objective for those striving to achieve Biblical spirituality. The problem with that statement is perfection is left out of the equation. History has proven that such a model just stated has contributed to the enhancement of harmony and peace among societies but within the Biblical context of spirituality such a statement has been the basis of God condemning every religion (including counterfeit Christianity) in the Bible, bringing down judgment upon the human race from time to time, and why He will evaporate every good thought or every good act with fire (burned like hay, wood, and stubble) after death. Here is the point: all religions, including those aspects that counterfeit Christianity, strive to duplicate the thinking of Christ whereas Biblical Christianity is to duplicate the thinking of Christ from a POSTION OF PERFECTION so it can be accepted by a perfect God. A position of perfection for a believer in Jesus Christ is the only distinguishable difference between Biblical spirituality and human spirituality. The term "spirituality" is loosely used today but Biblical spirituality is based on the perfect protocol from a perfect God. When believers follow the protocol to be in a position of perfection, then and only then, anything you think or do will not be separated from the perfection of God after death. Perfection is not only the pivotal point for securing a place in heaven but a pivotal point for securing acceptance from God through a life lived on earth as a Christian believer.
Millions to billions of people throughout humanity have tried to duplicate the good/beneficial aspects of Christianity but it can only be acceptable to God if it meets His perfect standards. This subject has a wide scope and will not be dealt with today in more detail but imperfect people living the spiritual life who have accepted the plan for solving the perfection issue are still obligated to the parameters of a perfect God. Perfection never grants exceptions.

Before any in the anti-God crowd are too quick in attempting to dismantle the claims of the Bible, a challenge for that group is to explain where sin and evil came from. Who decides what sin and evil is? On another hand, how can you have standards of sin and evil with a survival of the fittest mentality? There are 2 fascinating facts that should be mentioned here about the possibility of God and His claim to perfection. The first is that He is the only God of all of the gods' alluded to in human history whose claims are still around. What's more is that not only is He the only God still around but there have been major attempts in history to eliminate the Bible, Christianity, and the memory of God from the earth. The second is that no other god or religion has ever claimed to be perfect and/or a set of perfect standards for determining right/wrong and good/evil. This was documented in a very large book that researched every known religion in human history. Another interesting challenge is to determine and document just how each person decides what is right/wrong and good/evil then synthesize that with every other person's standard of right/wrong and good/evil so as to result in maximum harmony and peace while simultaneously maximizing individual freedom. Good luck on this one. Socialism, as some currently call it, has been trying to successfully figure out and implement this one for centuries.
As a side note, a standard of perfection seems to be a big rubbing point to those who want to allow whatever a person desires to be a standard of right/wrong and good/evil and to have flexibility to pursue survival or satisfaction as a matter of self-expression of individual freedom. Unfortunately for those who adhere to self-established standards, if God's claims are correct, the perfect standards of a perfect God will be the very same standards that will determine ones existence after death. The risk of believing He is not perfect is about as risky of a proposition a person can engage because of being locked into the resulting serious consequences forever and ever.
Some people are always claiming that men/women can figure out on their own what is best for societies and nations (because of so called evolution over previous generations) to establish peace and harmony. First, the challenges at the beginning of this section must be adequately and realistically established before claiming that humans can figure out on their own to maximize peace and harmony among all people. This must be done without any references to principles included in the Bible and/or similar principles post-dating the Bible (can't borrow Biblical principles since it would almost be impossible to prove what came along later was original).
Secondly, in a world that has so much bad and evil today surely the so called genius of men/women would have come up by now with at least one moral code not in the Bible that would improve the world. Ironically, history is a testament that societies, nations, civilizations, etc. are not around or lost greatness as a result of aborting or ignoring the principles advocated in the Bible for establishing and maintaining social peace, harmony, and justice (not the social justice promoted today in America). No nation, in all of human history, has ever survived its greatness. The historical trend is that such nations aborted the very principles that made them great which leads to a question for the American society, "On what grounds does America believe it can be the first nation in human history to abort the principles (in the pretense of progressivism) that made it one of the greatest nations in the history of mankind and expect to survive or maintain its greatness?" A big part of Bunny's patriotism was centered on retaining those founding principles that were crucial to America's greatness and honoring those who were willing to sacrifice/die to protect those same founding principles.

The atheist seems to think that if God cannot be proven then there is no God and everyone is relieved of considering the possibility that there is a God. Einstein's simple explanation in the classroom story at the beginning of this transcript illustrates that declaring ignorance though the lack of proof not only undermines absolute truth but also the very assumptions of absolute truth. I have never claimed to be in the "high society intellectual class" but even a Missourian can realize that such thinking is intellectually irresponsible and probably intellectually dishonest. There are three things in determining the best possible assumption for absolute truth established with intellectual integrity and intellectual objectivity. The first is establishing undisputable evidence that something or someone exists. The inability to do so leave the possibility that there is potential contradictory information or evidence still unknown that can potentially change the information or evidence known. The second is proving absolutely that something or someone does not exist or is not so. The inability to do so leave the possibility that there is potential contradictory information or evidence unknown that can change the information or evidence known. The third, which is why intellectual objectivity and intellectual integrity are critical, is that a person must always self-challenge what one believes and must always pursue potential information and evidence not yet known. The net result of ignoring any subject because it cannot be proven or disproven generally leads to subjectivity and most likely arrogance about what is assumed to be or not to be the truth.
I have known some very smart people and even some geniuses through my career. One such person, who was a consultant to my ag business, was on a nuclear submarine at the very early age of 13 helping the US Navy solve problems. Probably the most impressive aspect of his genius that impressed me the most, as with a few other geniuses I knew, was his level of "teach ability". In other words they were always challenging what they knew and always on the hunt to learn more. They knew the more they learned, even if it contradicted their present beliefs, was a key for them to be more objective in assessing assumptions for absolute truth.
I would challenge that any person afraid to have their belief system challenged and rarely on the hunt for more information probably has a lot of "leaks" in what they presently believe. I concluded after college that one of the greatest values of going to college was the interaction with people holding different belief systems. The greatest tool for refining belief systems on the personal, professional, and spiritual level is most likely when engaging with people who do not always agree with self-held positions. The most frustrating engagements with people, at least for me, are not those who are in disagreement searching for the truth but those in disagreement who deliberately ignore contradictory information and/or evidence to avoid changing their beliefs (and agendas). Hello modern day American politics and present day religions.

The last part of this message is to provide some explanation as to Bunny's understanding of love, how it relates to those around her, and what she considered the greatest model and demonstration of love she ever knew. There is probably not one person sitting here today who does not love being loved. I would imagine that is why so many people liked Bunny was because of her loving mentality. I can tell everyone here today from what most of you have conveyed to me in conversation, notes, e-mails, etc., that Bunny was a shining example of someone who loved others. A few even expressed the desire to be able to duplicate her loving mentality. Bunny realized, however, regardless of how high of esteem people viewed her loving mental attitude, her expressions of love, and the benefits to those around her that unless it was expressed through God's perfect protocol for achieving spiritual maturity it would not advance her spiritually or be acceptable to Him.
I think to some degree we all love some people, especially a spouse toward a spouse, parents to kids, kids to parents, family members to family members, etc. but with Bunny it seemed to be something that was evident to everyone for everyone. I can't tell you how many times after paying for merchandise after shopping, I would have to go back somewhere in the store to look for Bunny only to find her still talking or helping someone she didn't even know, or at least before she began a conversation. I learned when I was in a hurry to navigate through a store to avoid any babies in her visual site. Bunny's love of babies was a strong magnet to any baby in her periphery. But please note that Bunny's love for others was built on a stronger love that served as a beacon to her of just how far love could be manifested. The love that most of you saw in Bunny was considered miniscule by her when compared to the greatest love ever witnessed and expressed in human history.
Love is a very complex subject in itself. The complexity of love is generally caused by the confusion about love. Many times it is misunderstood and used as a label for something that is not even love such as an emotional "good" feeling toward someone. In order to let people know of Bunny's perception of love and to highlight the greatest love she ever knew a short discussion on three categories of love will help illustrate this: selfish love, sacrificial love, and unconditional love.
It may seem odd to associate selfishness with love. Selfish love is the type of love that many do not want to recognize or admit to. The term "selfish love" is given because the degree of love extended to others is dependent on the love or anticipated love returned to oneself from the object being loved. An example would be, "I love the way you love me". "If I don't love the way you love me then I will find someone else who will love me the way I love to be loved". There seems to be a lot of "love affairs" (and friendships) today that are based on this type of love. This might be a clue as to why most marriages today end up in a separation or divorce. The compatibility of loving each other the way the other wants typically gets derailed because self is not loved in a way that is acceptable. Using a modern day nomenclature, "If what you feel about a person (supposedly love) changes because of the change in that person then it is selfish love or object love".
The Bible recognizes that the love for one's own interests is a motivating factor in life for success and to promote peace and harmony at the human level when it says in essence, "Love others the way you love yourself". However, when Christ was on earth he set the standard to trump selfish love for love much, much, higher that would support the concept of perfection. He said in essence, "Love others the way I love you". This is a reference to not only unconditional love but perfect love which will be defined here and given as an example later.
Sacrificial love is a much more desirable love because it is not directly dependent on what one receives in return but generally anticipates something in return directly or indirectly even if it is postponed till eternity. Unfortunately, regardless of how greatly appreciated at the human level, sacrificial love will have no merit with God unless it is acceptable to his perfection.
Unconditional love (or as I call it, "tough love") is tough to express in its true and highest form. It is based on one's character grounded on principles that supersedes human love. Ask yourself how many of the people that may despise you that you love in spite of their despite. Unconditional love is just not tolerating a person who despises you but having the same mental attitude toward them as a person who adores you. Yes, that is why it is called tough love. It might be said that unconditional love is the "perfect love" but even this type of love must follow the Biblical protocol to have merit with a perfect God. Any type of love that has any merit with God must follow the protocol for adjusting to His perfection. Remember, perfection always trumps love.
Most would generally agree that a person who was willing to give their life for a family member such as a parent for a child or a spouse for a spouse would be highly commendable. It may not even be hard to understand why a person would be willing to do so. It becomes much more difficult for many people to understand just why a person would be willing to die in the place of a person they barely know or did not even know, especially, if the person dying as a substitute leaves behind loved ones dependent on them. But what is probably beyond human comprehension or human understanding is why a person would willingly give their life for a person or group of people who completely despise or hate them, especially, if the person as a substitute has nothing to gain and even has everything to lose. Would you freely volunteer to be tortured and die in the place of a person whose whole family totally despises you, hates you, and even tries to kill you? This is why I call this "tough love". The expression of unconditional love is completely divorced from the object of its love.
Bunny did not sacrifice her life for anyone in any of the categories just mentioned but she believed that love based on the greatest love ever expressed to mankind was much better than being dependent on how those she loved treated her. It is the difference between loving an object for the benefits it produces to self vs. loving an object irrespective of the benefits to self or irrespective of the harm done to self. I will confirm to you that one of Bunny's greatest passion with love was that no one would ever take the risk of going through the consequences of existence after death if the claims of a perfect God are true. In fact, probably the one reason she agreed to have a memorial service was because of the opportunity it would provide those who attended to listen to this message and seriously evaluate how to hedge their bet regarding the claims of God after death. The website link established after her passing will extend that opportunity to others who take time to read/listen to it in the future.

A few points will now be made about perfection to understand just how the claims of God affect what happens after death. First, humans are imperfect not only by God's perfect standards but by their own self-established standards. It should be obvious to every normal thinking person that no one is perfect. No matter how low or how high a set of standards of right/wrong and good/evil a person adopts in life at some point they fail to live up to their own standards. Take for an example parents who set standards for their kids that they themselves failed to follow perfectly. For those who might believe they are perfect, perfection cannot be born or created out of imperfection (in other words a person's whole lineage must be perfect to be born perfect). It is mathematically impossible to convert imperfection into perfection no matter how you work the numbers. Perfection does not evolve. Imperfection can evolve to various degrees (levels of good and/or bad) but never evolve into perfection. The assumption is totally antithetical to the concept of perfection plus being mathematically impossible. Once imperfect it can never be perfect ever again. A cleaned up version of an old saying, "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken poop no matter how much mayonnaise you add". Likewise, you can't make perfection out of imperfection no matter how much good you add.
This is probably why perfection is such a rubbing point to those who do not accept God's claims of perfection. A strong reason why the Creation Theory and the Evolution Theory are at such conflicting odds stems from a simple fact that a perfect God created a perfect universe and everything in it so there is no room for an incomplete creation at any instant of time. It is either perfect or it isn't. No matter at what stage imperfection or so called incomplete perfection is part of the picture it can never be perfect-ever.
Imperfect people cannot comprehend perfection because of the requirements to be perfect. The only way to comprehend perfection (as a starting point) is to be perfect and not limited by time and space which is not and cannot be a part of perfection. Perfection requires absolute or perfect truthfulness. In order to have the ability to know absolute truth one must know everything which demands that such knowledge has no beginning or no end. It is not abnormal for a human mind to freak out over this incomprehensible concept but keep in mind that just because humans cannot explain something or someone without a beginning or end, does not diminish the claims about God. It should not distract from the issue at hand which is to consider the ramifications if the claims are true. A person who believes there is no existence after death can no more absolutely prove that fact than a person can prove that it is possible to have no beginning or no end.
Another very important issue about perfection is that no part of imperfection can ever be part of perfection forever. The "locking in" of imperfection into perfection forever would forever undermine perfection. This concept poses several interesting possibilities in clarifying some issues in the Bible. First, time and space are not part of forever or eternity. This would support the claims in the Bible that time and space must be/will be terminated when the heavens (universe) and the earth will be destroyed so that imperfection will not be locked into forever (perfection is forever). Secondly, the fact that time and space will never be locked into forever gave God some "breathing room" to deal with humanities' imperfection instead of instantaneously separating imperfect humans from His perfection. He developed a plan that would take time to become a perfect plan in an imperfect world. This plan would provide an adjustment to His perfection to avoid separation forever. Thirdly, it would also provide time for human volition to consider the solution before the separation took place (under the concept of perfection, imperfection should immediately be separated). Fourthly, this may also explain why Satan and the fallen angels were never given a solution to avoid being separated from God forever due to the fact their imperfection was locked into forever (never could be changed). There are suggestions in the Bible that Satan appealed the judgment of separation because of the same reasons people question God, "How can a loving God separate His poor little creatures he created from His perfection to be constantly tormented forever"? The Bible suggests that God gave Satan and the fallen angels a shot of winning their appeal in time and space. The only way they could reverse being separated forever would be to cause God to break one promise or claim. Just one violation to God's perfection would undermine every claim of perfection and cause the solution for humanity to be aborted. A perfect God has to perfectly keep ALL of His promises to be perfect. It would be a moot point to discuss that an imperfect creature must be separated from an imperfect God. In other words, perfection would be destroyed--forever--and perfection would be no more. Satan and the fallen angels failed to cause God to break one promise which is implied when Jesus Christ rose from the dead, was seated at the right hand of God the Father, and is still seated in the presence of God's perfection. Jesus Christ perfectly followed God's protocol for solving the imperfection issue between God and humans. The seating of Christ in the presence of God's perfection is a testament that it is accepted by God's perfection and therefore deemed as the perfect solution. Christ's solution for imperfection was accepted by a perfect God forever i.e. locked into eternity forever and ever (never to be changed).

If the claims of God are true and a person is wrong for betting the claims of God are not true then that person will be separated forever and ever and ever from the perfection of God. Time and space, as we understand the universe, has allowed imperfect humans to temporarily avoid total separation (birth to death) from God for reasons already discussed. So the next obvious question (or concern) would be determining what total separation from perfection or God will be like.
The exact environment and state of existence is not completely described in the Bible but enough is discussed that it is something a person would want to avoid at any cost. The state of existence for being separated from God or His perfection could not be completely described because of the implications of eternity. In other words, some parts are humanly incomprehensible. It is very likely that not only physical torment will cause tremendous suffering and pain but that mental pain unknown to the human race will be a forever state of existence in this environment. To put it bluntly, there is no way to describe just how tormenting separation from God will be. This message cannot take time to discuss all of the ramifications of what separation from God will be like but the claim in the Bible that God is light will provide some clue if a person researches what existence would be like if light is totally non-exist from both the visible and the invisible realms. Albert Einstein was probably the first scientist to point out that all energy and power in the universe is connected to light for existence directly or indirectly.
The risk of being separated from the perfection of God should be an important part of determining how a person bets on what they believe to be true about existence after death. The example of physical pain resulting from torture can illustrate, in part, that separation from God is something a person probably does not want to risk being a part of. Physical pain is assumed to be just a small part of the pain included when separated from God. The example for this separation will be the death of Christ and just a couple of things He said during his torture and eventual death on the cross.

The Old Testament has many notations and claims that a God-man would come to earth to be a substitute for those who were doomed to separation because of imperfection which included every person of the human race during the existence of time and space. Preceding the crucifixion on the cross, Christ went through 6 so called unconstitutional trials that were rigged with no hope of a fair trial. In each case, all 6 courts failed to prove his guilt yet condemned him to his eventual death. What some may not realize is that it was the religious sector that fanatically pushed for Christ's death.
Another quick side note: I think that is very fascinating that a religious group, not an anti-religious group, wanted to kill a religious leader that has been consider one of the greatest religious personalities of human history. On another hand, using religion in the broad since of the word, it is probably not too far off to say from the study of history that most wars were directly/indirectly started because of religious conflicts (differences in standards of right/wrong and good/evil).
The pre-trial objective of the religious sector to have Him put to death allowed perjury in the first degree to convict Him. However, since they did not have the legal authority under Roman law to sentence a person to death they sought condemnation from Roman law which was eventually granted. Once condemned to death by Roman law, a person would be subject to the torture from the Roman soldiers and the torment from hanging on a cross. Another subject that will not be discussed today but seems to be a hot topic among some theological circles is whether Christ physically died from normal bodily shut down as a result of the torture, from bleeding to death on the cross, or whether he died at his own command. There are many interpretations to this issue but, unfortunately, some exclude the ramifications of perfection as to what is the "one" right, perfect interpretation.
Another side note with a twist. It is very contradictory for any religious or non-religious organizations to claim that Christ was a good man with a lot of good moral ideas in history and then deny the claim that He was the Son of God. Why? A man that stands in front of thousands and thousands to falsely claim that He is God is about as evil (deceptive) as a person can get. If considering the impact He has had on human history (millions dying for His claims), He is either the greatest con-artist or liar to ever walk the face of the earth or He was who He said He was. He could not have been anything in between. A claim that the greatest liar in the history of mankind was a good man does not soften the outright denial or rejection that He was God.

What Christ went through as a substitute for every person will give you a partial clue as to what you can expect after death if separated from God. It should be mentioned that the physical torture inflicted on Him should dispel any notion that Christ had a flower boy mentality. His life and especially His death demonstrated that He was physically and mentally tough and was nothing less than a man of all men.
The Romans were experts in physical torture with the lashing or whipping of a leather strap embedded with sharp objects such as pieces of metal, rocks, glass, thorns, etc. The expertise of the Romans included how to inflict as much pain with this strap or whip as possible without killing a subject because they wanted them to go through extreme agony for at least a couple of days while hanging on the cross. The most feared punishment for breaking Roman law was to be subject to the torture inflicted by these specialized soldiers and agonize in extreme pain to a slow death while hanging on a cross for days. It is very likely that members of modern day society would have never survived this form of torture any length of time due to the lack of everyday physical stamina required for survival in the times of the Romans. Those people, as a whole, were much tougher than modern day societies and could probably withstand much larger doses of pain.
Every lashing around Christ's rib cage was intended to rip the skin off down to His rib muscles. It was designed to maximize excruciating pain yet he said nothing. Every lashing to Christ's shoulder area was intended to rip the skin off His shoulders and upper arms down to the muscles. It was designed to maximize excruciating pain yet he said nothing. Every lashing to Christ's back was intended to rip the skin off His back bones. It was designed to maximize excruciating pain yet he said nothing. Every lashing that was repeated to the same areas of Christ's body was intended to rip the muscles down to the bone. It was designed to maximize excruciating pain yet he said nothing. They whipped him with this jerking action on and around his body until there was no remaining skin or untorn muscles. It was designed to maximize excruciating pain yet he said nothing. He was mocked and humiliated while His face was beaten with bare fists by the Roman soldiers yet he said nothing. He was then forced to lay a splintery and roughly cut wood cross over His open flesh back to carry/drag it up the hill to where he was to be crucified yet he said nothing. When he got to the crucifixion hill he was laid on the cross to have spike like nails driven through the palm of His hands yet he said nothing. Next, they pounded with a heavy hammer a large spike through each foot displacing the bones in His feet yet he said nothing. He was raised up on the cross and dropped into the hole dug to keep the cross upright. The jolt from dropping the cross into the hole maximized the pain where the spikes were driven through His extremities yet...he... said... nothing.
If you just go by the physical notations (verbal expression related to pain) of Christ, the non-physical pain yet to come would greatly over shadowed the physical torture he had already received. Christ had to be separated from God to be an exact substitute. A fact that is beyond human comprehension is how God could separate Christ from perfection for just 3 hours that would suffice as forever and ever. When Christ was separated during this time on the cross he finally SCREAMED OUT IN A LOUD VOICE from the suffering inflicted by this separation. What is separation from a perfect God like? We can deduct that it is much, much worse than the physical torture and pain He went through at the hands of the Romans and the agony from hanging on a cross. A person doesn't need much of an imaginative mind to understand the scope of pain the Romans inflicted. The physical pain endured by Christ on His way to and on the cross is projected to be a small part as to just how bad the punishment for being separated might be. Bunny would ask if she was here, "What is so important in your life, what is so secure in your future that you would be willing to risk such a horrible state of existence IF THE CLAIMS OF GOD TURN OUT TO BE CORRECT?" It should not be difficult for anyone to understand why Bunny's greatest expression of love was that no one, loved by her or not even known by her, should ever take a chance of being separated from a perfect God.
Jesus Christ became the substitute for mankind's consequences for being imperfect. He had nothing to gain by coming to earth to go through such an agonizing event. In fact, from a perfection standpoint He had everything to lose by doing so. This was a true demonstration of perfect unconditional love and the greatest scope of love ever expressed in human history. The cross is a symbol of where perfect love and compassion from a perfect God for imperfect humanity met His perfection and was accepted by His perfection. He died for those who totally despised and hated Him and the perfection He represented. Christ paid the consequence of being separated due to imperfection and it never needs to be paid again as he said on the cross at the end, "IT IS FINISHED". The original languages connote "completion". All past, present, and future imperfections were included in His separation. Not one imperfection was left out. The good news is that God will never need to separate any person from perfection on the basis of imperfection because the act of payment is finished or completed. There is nothing else that can or will be done to complete the payment. The record of each person's imperfections has been completely erased. It is the decision to accept or reject His perfect solution through His perfect protocol that now determines one's eternal state of existence.

The removing of the consequences of imperfection as the reason for people being separated from God for eternity does not give any human an automatic ticket to heaven. It just removed the barricade, as it were. The Bible says that all you have to do is accept His solution via His perfect protocol in order to activate your perfect substitution for separation. In other word, you have to accept the substitution without coercion. This is in keeping with the perfection of God. Let me explain. In the opening story the professor asked the student since God could do anything then he had to be able to sin and if He could not sin then He could not do everything. God can do anything but He does not choose to do everything. Therefore, perfection demands volition in order for it to maintain perfection. When it says in the Bible that God made man after His own image (remember God is invisible to the human eye) it can safely be concluded from the Bible that part of that image was volition. Volition is antithetical to coercion therefore God must allow each person to decide to accept or reject the payment through substitution.
Imagine, if you will, that God writes and gives you a check for a billion dollars but since He cannot coerce you He cannot force you to deposit the check therefore the check is of no value or no effect unless it is accepted by endorsing the check so it can be deposited. Even though you have a billion dollar check in your drawer at home you still cannot write a check over five hundred dollars if your bank balance is five hundred dollars. Christ's check for substitution cannot be put in effect or of any value until each person personally accepts or endorses it. I dare say that if any person was handed a billion dollar check from someone they did not know they would never be stopped from taking the check to the bank because of questioning its validity.
People hedge bets as part of normal life. A person who drives a $50,000 vehicle has the risk of wrecking the vehicle and losing the total value of the $50,000. What do we do? We go buy insurance (at a low cost compared to the $50,000 investment) to hedge a bet opposite of the risk from driving the vehicle. This illustrates the simplicity of hedging but there is one big difference in considering God's solution for adjusting to perfection. It cost nothing or requires no payments to hedge your bet against the lack of absolute proof regarding exactly what will happen after death if there is a perfect God to meet us. Imperfect money or any effort outside God's perfect protocol for depositing the money, as it were, is not accepted by a perfect God for insurance against the possibility that the claims of total and constant torment forever and ever are true. Christ's life and death eliminated the imperfect (counterfeit) money, as it were, and paid God with perfect money for us. Amazingly, at such a price to pay by Christ, He asks nothing in return except to voluntarily accept it which is even simpler than signing the back of the check to avoid coercion which would violate His perfection. As a volitional creature the gift must be freely accepted.

The Bible says that all you have to do is accept His perfect solution in order to activate your substitution for separation. It cost nothing to accept or deposit this free gift and no work or payment is required in exchange when accepting the gift. This can be a simple and private volitional acceptance or agreement that His Solution will be accepted by His perfection. The substituting payment of Christ is free out of unconditional love and is an unconditional gift. The only thing required to activate the payment is to accept it or to "believe" as it is put in the English of the King James Bible translation. Once this is accepted by the perfection of God, it is entered into eternity which implies it is locked into forever and ever with no chance of changing.
So at the expense of being a little sarcastic, "Just how much intelligence does it take to cover the risk for not absolutely knowing what will happen after death?" Faith is required for anything and everything you believe regarding what will happen after death. Faith, in the context of the Bible, implies it is a matter of what you will have faith in---not whether you will have faith or no faith. After all, the rejection of the perfect protocol and the perfect solution takes faith also since there is no absolute proof to back such a rejection as the absolute truth.
When a person loves people the way Bunny loved people it is of no wonder that she passionately did not want any person she loved or any person she did not know to ever take a risk of going through existence after death apart from a perfect God. It may seem unimaginable that a person would ever take a chance to agonize through suffering just comparable to Christ's physical suffering on the cross much less the greater suffering of total separation. It is totally unnecessary to take such a risk but the decision of accepting the gift is totally up to each person. It is a shame on those who try to wheel & deal, manipulate (emotionally or intellectually), embarrass, and/or coerce people into accepting the payment from Jesus Christ.
Another short note: If God will not coerce a human to make the most important, the best, and the most beneficial decision ever to make in life who are we as humans to believe that lower forms of good justify coercing people's volition. This is why I consider the freedom of volition an almost "sacred" factor in human existence. It should be cultivated, protected, and maximized at every point in life. I have heard the phrase that "government plays God" when trying to control people's decisions. Sorry, God does not coerce people's volition no matter how good or beneficial it may be when it comes to what to think or decide.

As a recap, the information provided in this transcript today is not presented as an argument to prove God, His perfection, the Bible, etc. but to offer the "stakes" or "risks" possible for not believing the claims of God and the substitutionary solution offered by a perfect God. The decision is totally yours but keep in mind no excuses are valid when each person stands before a perfect God. It might be smart to keep in mind that there is no guarantee to anyone just how long you have to make such a decision since no one knows how long they may live. When death occurs, however, the "decision making time" will be terminated. The billion dollar check, as it were, expires instantly at death and can never be deposited. At death, your decision about the perfect solution by Christ will be locked into eternity forever and ever. An undecided decision is a default decision of not accepting the substitutionary gift since volition requires responsibility to change/activate something. The good news is that each person has pardon papers already prepared by Christ from separation forever. Do you think a convict is going to refuse a pardon from death row because nobody can prove to him/her that the papers have valid signatures? After all, you can eliminate the risk of being separated from a perfect God and can check the facts out later. In fact, that is part of the strategy in the spiritual life is to check the facts that can potentially build enough evidence so that undisputable confidence evolves regarding your decision. There is evidence from discovered archeology and historical records that verify the accuracy of the related parts of the Bible. Every claim that comes along to disprove the Bible has always backfired and eventually is squashed because of the lack of or manipulation of evidence. There have been many attempts to crush out Christianity but all have failed thus far. Take for example one of the more recent attempts--The Da Vince Code. So much of the information presented in the movie was unfounded and inconsistent with known historical facts that it becomes obvious that agendas were trying to undermine the very claims of Christianity with the presumable hope that readers/listeners would never check out the facts.
This backup transcript will conclude with an illustration of how sometimes simplicity is complicated by wrong presumptions (deliberately or innocently). I failed to find the following story in my computer notes for the exact details. It has been quite a while since I read the story but the context as presented will relay the point of the story. Most people know of Houdini who is considered by many as the greatest escape artists of all time. There was never a situation, regardless of how impossible it may have seemed that he could not escape from -- that is except one. A German manufacturing company designed a so called escape proof security systems for jail cells. A town in Germany was one of the first cities to consider revamping their prison system but wanted proof that no one could ever escape before paying the high cost to install the security system. The company, very confident of how escape proof the system was, agreed to install a trial system on one jail cell and allow the city to do anything it could contrive to try and prove it was not escape proof. The city decided to hire Houdini to come to the German town and give it the ultimate test. He agreed and was locked in the cell. It is said that he worked for over an hour and half trying to figure a way to "pick" the locking system. It was interesting that of all of the life threatening situations he had escaped none had ever caused so much stress to Houdini even though there was no risk to his life in this test. He became so mentally stressed out from frustration that he sweat heavily and even had to stop a couple of times because of fear of fainting from being physically and mentally exhausted. He was so frustrated and exhausted that he finally considered giving up because there was nothing left for him to try. The idea of being defeated by a locking system was a huge blow to his reputation so he decided to think everything out just one more time before calling the guards to admit his failure. As he was going through his final thinking process of how to break out, he leaned against the jail cell door to help support his exhausted body only to simultaneously fall to the floor outside of the cell as the door opened. He was appalled because he knew he had not tripped the locking mechanism. It then dawned on him what happened. The guards closed the jail cell door but forgot to engage the electronic locking mechanism.
When Jesus Christ substituted for every imperfect person's eternal separation from the perfection of God, it allowed God to "unlock" the door that trapped/blocked/separated us from His perfection. It was God's love for the human race that provided the solution to unlock the door but His almost sacred respect of never coercing volition leaves it up to each person to escape by just pushing the door open. It was impossible for any human to unlock the door but we get so wrapped up with "doing something or earning the right" for the normal functions in human life that we try everything to figure out how to overcome the impossible when all we have to do is push the door open. The door will never open no matter how much time a person spends working (analogous to good works) on unlocking the locking mechanism UNLESS THE DOOR IS PUSHED OPEN. We just have to believe the door has already been unlocked and all we have to do to escape the eternal separation from a perfect God is a simple push on the door. As God is perfect so is every one of His promises. God has promised that if we push the door open that it will forever be left open and will never be locked again. There is no reason to lock it because every imperfection yet to be enacted has already been taken care of. What a pitfall shame for anyone to exit this life only to find out the door was unlocked the whole time we were trying to figure out on our own how to unlock the door. What a pitfall shame for anyone not to eliminate the risk of separation from a perfect God when all it takes is a simple "push on the door" as it were. If Bunny were here today she would invite you to consider pushing the door open, as it were, to follow the perfect protocol to activate the perfect solution that will be accepted by a perfect God. After all, if Bunny's beliefs, as presented in this transcript are right, it is the only way anyone here will ever met up with her again and enjoy her friendship and love--never to be separated again. If you conclude that the claims of God are not true then you have no way of knowing if you will ever be reunited with her again, for how long, or under what circumstances. For me, the smart bet is Bunny's Perfect Bet.

There has been a large amount of subject matter presented in this transcript with little time to fully develop a number of concepts. This is obviously not a "research document" but intended to be a "get you to think document". Hopefully the subject matter of this transcript will provide numerous concepts that readers/listeners will do their own research to verify the validity of their own beliefs---especially concerning the risk of what happens after death. Anyone who would like to know more about any subjects referenced in this transcript can request recommended sources for further study at the following e-mail address: chuck@mgsfulkag.com